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Message started by Mad Farquhar on 01/22/11 at 19:24:46

Title: Guzzi 1100 Sport
Post by Mad Farquhar on 01/22/11 at 19:24:46
In:- K & Ns.
Out:- Lafranconis (Competitione Reservato :-)).
Shake it all about:-
Still working on idle - has a habit of occasionally conking out at lights etc. even when warm.
More work to be done using the LC1 maybe when all the frost and snow goes!!
Off to do the hokey cokey....
https://cajinnovations.com/yabb0/YaBB.pl?action=downloadfile;file=070111map.ecu (11 KB | 921 )

Title: Re: Guzzi 1100 Sport
Post by raz on 01/23/11 at 07:10:55
Are you using original spec for valve lash? More generous figures like 0.15/0.20 or even 0.20/0.25 does wonders for idle and low rpm with my bike. No downside as far as I can tell. I thought it was because of very worn guides but this is still a fact after a full overhaul.

I also notice my idle cell has a full millisecond longer pw than yours! Mine is 3600 with an InjVOn of 700 @14V.

Title: Re: Guzzi 1100 Sport
Post by Mad Farquhar on 01/23/11 at 08:59:28
Dammit Raz - I was going to have a quiet Sabbath now it'll be dirt under the nails again :-) !

Will check the v/vs - it's been a while.

gav

Title: Re: Guzzi 1100 Sport
Post by Mad Farquhar on 02/03/11 at 03:43:09
Now then - have checked tappets and adjusted to 0.2 / 0.25mm. Checked balance and it seems pretty good with the morgantune thingamebobs. Adjusted idle cell to about 3400us as per Razs map and afr dived to about 10.3. Engine seems to labour but cant really do much more until mother nature stops throwing cold weather our way. Odd stuff happens when saving to ecu - get a wee cough and splutter - seemingly as upload goes through lower left cell - sometime leads to engine stall. Not always at this cell. Anyone else get this?

Title: Re: Guzzi 1100 Sport
Post by raz on 02/03/11 at 06:17:16
Is that when saving an individual cell or the whole map? I can't recall having ever saved or loaded the entire map with engine running.

Title: Re: Guzzi 1100 Sport
Post by Mad Farquhar on 02/03/11 at 08:32:40
Hi Raz
I fired up the bike. Loaded ecucontrol with the present incumbent map, modified the idle cell for a while and then saved the map to the ecu thence to file. Engine running whilst this is going on. That's when I notice stalls. I was more attentive this time and noted the position of the stalls - in the past I put it down to rubbish mapping or something but it does seem a function of the ecucontrol / eeprom being updated. Ecucontrol goes through the  parameters then seems to hit the cell tables stuff: cough and stall and bad words ensue.

Title: Re: Guzzi 1100 Sport
Post by Rat Patrol on 02/03/11 at 11:38:41
I've never tried to save the map to the ecu while the bike was running.

What I do is load the map from the ecu, start the bike, modify the idle cell, and then update the eeprom before moving on to another cell. I don't think you need to reload the entire map to the ecu.

Title: Re: Guzzi 1100 Sport
Post by Mad Farquhar on 02/03/11 at 17:17:00
Yeah, fine I know now what I am doing is unorthodox, but why does it cough and stall?
:-?

Title: Re: Guzzi 1100 Sport
Post by YaBB Administrator on 02/04/11 at 05:56:17
Don't save a map to the ECU while the engine is running.
It could corrupt the firmware is the map is in program memory. You can do individual cells with no problems.

Title: Re: Guzzi 1100 Sport
Post by raz on 02/04/11 at 08:21:34

YaBB Administrator wrote on 02/04/11 at 05:56:17:
It could corrupt the firmware is the map is in program memory.

So maybe ECUControl should refuse to save if rpm >= 500. I guess that would be a trivial hack?

Title: Re: Guzzi 1100 Sport
Post by Mad Farquhar on 02/04/11 at 08:42:29
or be documented

Title: Re: Guzzi 1100 Sport
Post by _Cliff_ on 02/04/11 at 10:33:40

raz wrote on 02/04/11 at 08:21:34:
So maybe ECUControl should refuse to save if rpm >= 500. I guess that would be a trivial hack?

Yes that would be easy.

Actually I've been working on the next version of the ECUController but lacking the motivation to finish it off. I'll put it into that.

It's a major rearrangement of the UI to try and simplify. I'll add this and then ask for some beta testers.

Title: Re: Guzzi 1100 Sport
Post by greenmonster on 02/04/11 at 22:55:08
And please do remove Apply button from Global map adjust.

Title: Re: Guzzi 1100 Sport
Post by raz on 02/05/11 at 12:11:04

greenmonster wrote on 02/04/11 at 22:55:08:
And please do remove Apply button from Global map adjust.

Good point but I'm not sure it's that simple. You may want to change one thing, press Apply, change another, press OK.
But something should obviosuly be fixed. If Apply was clicked, clicking OK should just back you out without applying the fixes again.

Or maybe you're right. Click OK and the re-enter Global Adjustment. That can't go wrong.

Title: Re: Guzzi 1100 Sport
Post by YaBB Administrator on 02/05/11 at 12:54:14
Yes I already removed that from the next version.

Title: Re: Guzzi 1100 Sport
Post by swinfurkon on 01/22/13 at 12:54:48
hi, just thought to share that I had to change all my relays, the originals in the 02 Le Mans were cheap and cheerful factory models, and after time had the same issues as yourself, albeit on factory WM ECU. Just thought to share this even this long after the post. I used General Motors (Holden) Model  number IN 0513. it would not start, and would stall even when warm. New relays are fitted et voila no more embarrassing long starts at the shops or stalling at lights.

Title: Re: Guzzi 1100 Sport
Post by Regs on 06/06/13 at 22:36:29
Yeah relays have been a problem for a lot of owners. I have just brought new ones for mine as I still have a hick up some where. A mate had relay trouble and on fitting non genuine relays the problem went away. 

Title: Re: Guzzi 1100 Sport
Post by Roy Matson on 07/29/16 at 08:58:56
So where are all the VII Sport maps hidden guys?

I have one Raz sent me years ago. It still runs but I think it's been corrupted

Thanks
Roy

Title: Re: Guzzi 1100 Sport
Post by raz on 07/29/16 at 18:32:13
The V11 is the exact same engine as the 1100 Sport i.e. My map is posted in this very forum section!

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