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Which O2 flag is which?
06/15/13 at 04:54:45
 
With regard to AFR/lamda/LC1 output voltages.

As I understand it the LC1 analogue output 2 will output 0.0 volt at 7.35 AFR and 5.0 volts at 22.39 AFR.


The standard MyECU map uses 8 flags:

  0.00V,-3.00V,-2.75V,-2.50V,-2.25V,-2.00V,-1.75V,-1.50V

I assume these equate to approx:

7.35 AFR, 16.5 AFR, 15.7 AFR, 15.0 AFR, 14.25 AFR, 13.5 AFR,  12.7 AFR,  12.0 AFR

(As close as I can get from drawing a graph!)

So which is flag 1 and which is flag 8 please?  i.e. does flag 2 = -3.00 v or -1.75

Do I need to reprogram the LC1 for these negative figures or should I just put a multimeter across the output and find out if mine is outputting positive or negative and set the map accordingly.

At the moment I am using the LC1 output 2 to drive an AFR meter, typically it shows 22.2 with the engine stopped and around 14.1 with it running on a fast idle.  I assume I will have to program the LC-1 to output 5v ( + or - ) before connecting it to the My15M. At the moment I have my map set to the Breva standard O2 sensor so perhaps I could leave the map alone for the moment.

Any advice other than which flag is which.

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Re: Which O2 flag is which?
Reply #1 - 06/15/13 at 05:36:36
 
Hi

You dont need to change anything else if you modify tragets to 0-5volt instead of 0-1 volt of the stock sensor and use the flags table from the sport map. That works with the Lc1.
The lc1 is much better so use it!
Cliff on the main site explains this. Just connect your LC1 wideband out(you can connect in paralel with your afr meter) to input 1 and change the map on the lambda input configuration.

Flag0= open loop
Flag1=-3.00V
Flag7=-1.50V

I use the voltage tragets of the Raz map at it give smaller Afr steps but if you are starting, just use the normal configuration.

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Re: Which O2 flag is which?
Reply #2 - 06/15/13 at 06:23:26
 
Many thanks for the reply.

I will do a few trips with the stock non-lamda ecu to see what kind of AFR figures the standard bike offers.  Then I will refit the My15M and do the same open loop. Hopefully that will allow me to see how close the two maps are and then try closed loop. Initially I will try to get the map to equate with the stock item.  I have a second hand Stucchi xover and a pair of used Mistral alloy silencers that I hope to play around with. As I understand things any mods designed to increase power should initially make the bike run weaker, any power gain coming from the fuel you add to get back to a correct AFR.  Be interesting to see if I am correct. Cheesy
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Re: Which O2 flag is which?
Reply #3 - 06/15/13 at 09:44:31
 
Thanks for the reply Rickf4.

Further more. The flags indexes go from 0 to 7, this being a programming conventionin array addressing.

Entry 0 of the map is usually set to 0V to indicate open loop. This is not mandatory though and you could specify 8 closed loop targets if you wanted.

The -ve sign is purely to indicate the slope of the voltage/mixture curve. There are no negative voltages. The LC1 is the opposite to the cheaper sensors in its default mode.

Convention is to have increasing index given increased richness but again this is not mandatory. They could be all over the place if you wanted.
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Re: Which O2 flag is which?
Reply #4 - 06/15/13 at 18:46:48
 
So the -ve sign indicates the slope is from high voltage to low, 5v being max weak at 22.39 AFR  and 0v being max rich at 7.35 AFR for the LC1.

Rick4 mentioned connecting the AFR meter in parallel with the MyECU,  I assumes this means to the same analogue output, is this a good idea as I suppose it would then display that which is actually being sent to the MyECU.
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Re: Which O2 flag is which?
Reply #5 - 06/20/13 at 03:27:20
 
Yes. Connect both in parallel to the same analogue output. With that you have a nice way to visualize your AFR reading and you can see the ecu correct the mixture when running in closed loop.

I have a LM2 that has a display and is very useful.

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